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February 21, 2007

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Great post Lawrence.

I agree with almost everything you've written, with the exception of 'Content to Flash Widget Conversion' where our experience is different (more to come...)

Bingo. I believe your winning formula is right on the mark. The key is uptake, and with competing deployment platforms (start pages, desktop environments, blogs, etc.) this isn't going to be easy.

"At this early stage of the game, I would rather be facing the publisher than the consumer."
For sure, it's always easier to build a company on corporate fees - but that's the agency model and ends up being fiercely competitive with slim margins.


"Both the widget directory model and the widget container value proposition seem suspect to me in terms of their ability to attract a large audience."

Well, let's give it a bit of time and find out. We are playing to existing large audiences, i.e. people who consume widgets for their own choice of destination, so there is a good chance for the right product.

"A consumer emphasis also places you squarely in the path of the well funded start pages like Netvibes and Pageflakes, who are basically providing the same services but in the context of a consumer behavior with more proven demand."
I don't agree that there is 'more proven demand' for start pages. Start pages are a very recent phenomenom and, while sexy, provide limited potential. We believe that the combination of widgets from the free market and a free market of destinations has much more potential. There is another issue: start pages face inwards, most web sites face outwards. Different marketplaces. And 'well funded' just means funded, it isn't any sort of magic in its own right.

Lawrence,

First of all, thanks for recognizing in your chart of widget services that Widgetbox is the only vendor that has addressed the full range of capabilities you've identified. We think that these are the basic foundation that you need in order to provide a viable platform in this space, and in fact, we think a lot more needs to be done.

Regarding the consumer-facing services, from our conversations with our over a hundred certified widget providers (the ones who take advantage of our premium services), we've seen that there is a very strong desire for the capabilities to market, merchandise, and cross-promote widgets, which Widgetbox is alone in being able to offer by virtue of our consumer-facing Widget Marketplace services. We do think that the Amazon or iTunes model is essential for distributing widgets, we don't agree that this is separate from the idea of "widgets found in the wild" - there is no successful similar model in any online product promotion that doesn't use viral endpoints in conjunction with a central catalog - just try to purchase a single book or song from a blog link without having Amazon or iTunes trying to promote a dozen other titles.

As you point out, the business models are still evolving, but we're able to leverage the most built-out platform in the business to addresses the opportunities that emerge and a healthy user base of both publishers and consumers to grow from.

Ed Anuff
CEO, Widgetbox

Ivan, on Septermber 28 of 2006 I said this (about widgetbox):

"So the task at hand seems pretty straightforward; 1) put together the world’s best widget directory to attract developers and publishers alike; 2) blend the directory experience into the platform experience so that using one is using the other; and 3) wire the Widgetbox platform to the big blog aggregators to enable easy implementation."

Clearly, my position has changed significantly on what a winning formula might look like in just a few short months. As Ed says, iTunes and Amazon are two pretty compelling success stories of platforms that face the consumer.

One of the benefits of being a blogger is that you can make sweeping generalizations on things without actually having to bet the farm :)

My point about start pages is that the long time existence of MyYahoo! makes start pages a bit less of a new behavior for the consumer than centralized widget marketplaces.

Lawrence, I think one thing we can all admit is that the situation is very very complex and none of us know how it will pan out. It is certainly exciting though. Keep up the analysis.

Great post. You have sparked an interesting and worthwhile conversation.

I guess I will join the club - albeit a bit late - and put in my two cents. :)

You are correct, Clearspring's flagship services our geared to benefit the widget creator. Although we think everyone is doing fantastic things with their respective efforts, that is what we have decided to focus on first.

As many folks have alluded to, however, this is a new space. Models are still emerging. Everyone in the space will make huge changes over time - that is the nature of an early market. We have some ideas about what will happen next though, and are planning accordingly.

As an aside, we do offer a variety of distribution tools. So you might want to update the trusty chart you are working on.

Thanks for the great thinking. Cheers.

Hooman, are you guys coming out with an automated, public platform any time soon where regular joes (like me) and can try out your cool tools :) ?

Really informative post! I am learning so much about the art of widget development & distribution. TBH, it sure doesn't seem easy!

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Great post Lawrence. I agree with almost everything you've written, with the exception of 'Flash Widget Content Conversion, where our experience is different.

I agree with almost everything you've written, with the exception of 'Flash Widget Content Conversion, where our experience is different.

I think the winning formula is right on the mark. The key is the recruitment, competition and deployment platforms (home pages, desktop environments, blogs, etc) this will not be easy.

Banks can really help in this regards.

Old school companies can be nice because clients marketing budgets, my feeling is that none of the widget platforms want to get too hooked on this type of revenue model once.

Great post Lawrence, I am in 100% agreement

Widgets are nice for smaller companies that don;t have a big budget and can focus on bringing smaller niche products to the market.

Not bad sir, not bad. ^_^

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